Quelques raisons pourquoi beaucoup de gens ne considèrent pas Android comme un o viable…

A few reasons why a lot of people don’t consider Android as a viable option

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cette diatribe résume mes pensées et quelques autres que j’ai entendu au cours de ces dernières années : * ** confidentialité ** (en général) : de toute évidence, nous ne pouvons pas attendre cela en raison de la position dominante de Google dans le monde de la publicité mais je dois dire que beaucoup de gens reconnaissent th e « avantages » qui vient d’avoir une grande quantité de données, par exemple, avec l’Assistant de Google.

* ** Le manque d’engagement à long terme des services de Google (et produits) : ** C’est devenu tout à fait un mème dans cette sub, mais nous allons nous positionner en tant que personne avec aucune expertise dans Android. Comment pouvez-vous attendre quelqu’un pour comprendre et suivre les plusieurs apps messageries que Google enterré au cours des dernières années ? Le même processus s’applique à la boîte de réception, et tout cela crée une peur d’investir dans l’écosystème de Google.

Un autre problème est les produits bêta qui sont jetés aux utilisateurs sans aucune attente de service testing ou minimale. C’est le cas pour la musique de Youtube qui toujours ne peut pas trier les artistes. Aussi vaut plaindre est tâche/Keep de Google qui ne sont pas intégrés bien avec Google Assistant par exemple pourquoi y at-il un site Web spécifique pour le shopping liste, wtf.

* ** La poussée injustifiée de Google pour automatiser tout ** : il s’agit de Google classique où ils pense qu’ils peuvent obtenir une Ia pour toutes sortes de tâches, donc ils n’ont pas à payer quelqu’un pour nous faire interagir et résoudre les problèmes avec un être humain. Alors qu’ils pourraient sortir avec elle pour certains services comme Google Photos où un grand nombre de principes fondamentaux sont présents et n’ont pas vraiment besoin de soutien ce n’est pas à l’échelle bien pour les développeurs. Sur à /r/androiddev ils ont plusieurs postes sur Google injustement clôturant les comptes et détruire des vies/carrières de personnes sans aucun recours à côté de courriels stupides automatisés.

* ** UI pour d’autres fabricants que Google : ** Stock android est belle et propre (et en vedette manque et buggy), mais ayant de multiples magasins de Samsung et Google, plusieurs même contradictoires stock apps de Samsung et Google n’est pas vraiment bien compris pour beaucoup de gens.

* ** Simple Backup et restore pour Android : ** vous les gars savent comment c’est fait pour iOS, il suffit de le copier ?

Maintenant pour certains ** spécifique ** questions que je me dirige des gens se plaindre quand je leur demande pourquoi ils ne considèrent pas passer à Android : * Android n’a pas encore compris les APIs de caméra c’est pourquoi encore de photos Instagram semble mal sur le dernier Android programmes phares. Gens ne veulent pas en savoir sur Pixel Core visuel qui ne fonctionnent pas ou le mode intégré d’Instagram sur le S10, juste faire les API travail comme sur les iPhones.
* (Musique de Youtube personnelle) est le meilleur service de musique qui ont baisé vers le haut parce que c’est Google, ce qui en fait. La promesse d’youtube vidéos et streaming de musique classique combiné est la meilleure de sa catégorie, la recommandation est aussi fantastique, mais nous n’avons pas AndroidAuto jusqu’à il y a quelques semaines et le service ne peut pas toujours faire des trucs de base, c’est tellement frustrant. Les mises à jour régulières promis n’est également jamais venu. (PS également aucune app AndroidTV) * Auto Android (personnelle) est le logiciel pire jamais écrit et j’espère aucune voiture ne sort de l’usine avec AndroidAutomotive. Ma voiture de 2017 a par exemple Google Earth, mais la fonction cessera de fonctionner en 2021 en raison des modifications de l’API et dans le monde de la voiture, c’est inacceptable.

AndroidAuto a aussi beaucoup d’indésirables restrictions bizarres par exemple que je ne peux pas naviguer à l’intérieur des playlists ou des albums. Je ne peux pas rapidement des chansons vers l’avant dans la musique de Youtube. L’application du téléphone n’est pas centraliser tous les appels entrants (en plus des appels réguliers) d’autres applications telles que Messenger ou Whatsapp. Tous les ennuis précédents sont totalement inexistante sur CarPlay d’Apple qui a un logiciel beaucoup plus poli, voir /r/AndroidAuto pour quelques déceptions.

* Google photos prend en charge direct photo avec Audio sur iOS mais la Pixel3 n’enregistre pas Motion Photos avec audio * dans mon pays (en France au moins) des téléphones Android tous ont bloatware préinstallés qui ne peut se faire sur un iPhone * également ici les téléphones Android ne peut pas avoir Volte / VoWifi si ils n’a pas acheté le téléphone par le transporteur recherché (pour la plupart des téléphones), qui encore une fois n’est pas le cas pour n’importe quel iPhone


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20 réflexions au sujet de “Quelques raisons pourquoi beaucoup de gens ne considèrent pas Android comme un o viable…”

  1. Almost all of these the average user won’t ever care. Privacy I see it, but theoretically, thats how google makes its services so great. How is google maps suppose to give you accurate data if people aren’t sending data? And I’m almost certain Apple collects their users datas anyways, just never sells them (which is a pretty bs move *cough facebook*)

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    While some google products *cough hangouts* have a lack of commitment, there are also tons that google constantly « improves » (more like minor updates but hey, its not being canceled)

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    Believe it or not automation is the future. A pretty far away one but still the future and I’m pretty sure google is just experimenting and « perfecting » (more like developing) these systems. Certain things could be tested before it starts effecting devs but this entire point meets a giant wall that says consumers dont give a fuck

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    Well can’t blame a specific company for the clunky ass UI, you certainly can’t blame google and I wouldn’t put a blanket over this and say a reason people avoid android. Google’s own phones, Oxygen OS, Motorola’s skin are just some of the near stock, clean UI experiences and even Samsung doesn’t seem to be getting as bad of a rep as before with the One UI

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    I agree that back up and restore process could use a better system but this really isn’t a big deal as to be a reason where people avoid android.

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    * In my country (in France at least) Android phones all have bloatware preinstalled which can’t happen on an iPhone

    I must ask what bloatware you are talking about. Android comes with google products pre-installed and unless you got some carrier shit *looking at you version with your bs* but thats it, atleast in the US

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    TL;DR Most people don’t really give a fuck about these reasons maybe except privacy yet thats how google does make its products great so… + android Q makes it seem like google does care…

  2. You can see my phone history in my flair as context, but here’s my take. I’m a pretty experienced user so I’m one of those that tries to use every feature I pay for. To me, the advatanges of Android far outweigh the disadvantages, when compared to iOS. Here’s my response to your points; and please note that for the last 3 or so years, I’ve been using flagship Samsung phones, so this is a Samsung-based opinion.

    * **Privacy:** Haven’t really given privacy much thought to be honest. Currently on my S10+, I use a Private DNS server (a system/stock option in Android 9 Pie) to block all ads in all apps and it works quite well. Also I use Samsung Pass to store all my passwords under a biometrics layer of security – I quite like this. Thirdly, I have a « secure mode » on my phone for all sensitive information that is kept under an additional layer of security on top of the usual phone unlocking security. I think non-Samsung have started integrating this mode too.
    * **Lack of long-term commitment for Google apps:** This is a great point. However, as Android is incredibly versatile, I’ve found my preferred apps for my own ecosystem and I don’t see them dying at all. There’s a very stable and well-functioning app for everything. Online messaging: Messenger, WhatsApp, Viber (for some international contacts). Texting: Android Messages (please don’t die on me!). YouTube Vanced (amazing app for Android, removes all ads and includes background play for free), Outlook for emails (awesome imo), Spotify for music (excellent, I store about 30 GB of music in highest quality onto my phone), mostly stock Samsung apps for other things.
    * Beta testing: I feel unfinished solutions only show up to stock android users since they get everything first, where as Samsung tends to wait/delay and give only what works well, so I won’t comment on this.
    * **Google pushing to automate everything:** 100% agreed. As cool as Google assistant is, after playing around with it, I never find myself actually using it. Same as Samsung’s Bixby – never use it! However, what I have found awesome is Bixby Routines – Samsung’s user-friendly version of Tasker. Now I have routines like « Connect to car’s bluetooth » = Turn on spotify, play music, make screen brighter, text larger, or « When at work’s location in 100m radius » = mute phone, volume 0, do not disturb on, power saving mode on. The list goes on as I try to simplify my life with these custom commands – something I don’t see iOS having in a decade even.
    * **UI for other manufacturers than Google:** This was a big issue for MANY years. The Samsung/LG/Huawei phones were littered with laggy UI and duplicate apps and so on. However for the last 2 years or so, I think other manufacturers have stepped their game up incredibly – at least Samsung. I find Samsung’s One UI to be incredibly smooth and simple, while also being packed with features; much more than a stock Android phone. I suspect Huawei phones are in a similar boat. So honestly these days, I’d say it is a preference, and non-stock Android phones are perfectly okay to use. Duplicate apps are still there unfortunately, but it isn’t too hard to disable/remove them and pick your favoured one.
    * **Simple Backup and restore for Android:** Yup, iOS wins this one hands down. There isn’t an easy all-in-one backup/restore solution Android wide. Google Drive has a backup but it’s quite minimal imo. Samsung’s Smart Switch seems to work quite well for moving from any phone (even iOS) to Samsung, and they give you a USB-C to USB-A adapter.
    * **Camera API:** Oh boy, iOS wins this hands down. Camera quality on secondary apps (i.e. not stock camera of the phone) is a god damn mess and they haven’t fixed it after all these years. Snapchat is horrible and IG is quite bad compared to iOS. Praying for this to be fixed one day.
    * **Android Auto**: Yup, this is very bad compared to CarPlay, no comment as my car doesn’t have it but I’ve seen it in use.
    * **Carrier bloat**: Yup, what an annoying thing that still happens. I’ve stuck to unlocked carrier-free phones for years now, but I understand the carrier frustrations.

    So why does Android have the above issues? Simple answer = Because it’s an overarching software supporting like 30+ manufacturers, it is incredibly hard to integrate and streamline. iOS is one manufacturer, one company, they make all the decisions. Hence it isn’t a fair comparison, but still valid.

    **Summary:** It’s all based on your preferences, but if you’re willing to tinker around with settings and spend a bit of time customising your Android to your liking, you’ll definitely like it more. If you want a phone to do all the basics from out of the box from Day 1 – iPhone is a great option. However, I think the line between flagship Androids and iPhones in terms of usability are drawing closer. You can pick up a Pixel 3 or an S10 and things will basically work fine out the box. For me: due to things like Routines, YouTube Vanced, system-wide adblocking via DNS, I’ll always love android. Also, Samsung specifically is absolutely obliterating the hardware game – these new phones are gorgeous and the triple-camera versatility, headphone jack, slim and sleek design just blow the competition out of the water for me.

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  3. Vast majority of people aren’t technically literate to care about any of the above. And those technically literate enough don’t necessarily care either.

    Android has vast majority of the market share simply because it’s cheaper.

  4. So, this is a bait, but I’ll bite.

    1. Apple’s « privacy » isn’t as strong as people claim. iMessage is more secure than SMS, but real security comes from open source apps like Signal. I don’t see why anyone would truly trust a closed source company like Apple care about privacy. It’s their current marketing push, but there’s no way they’re not using the same analytics software that the rest of the world’s businesses are using (I.E. creating consumer profiles and sending app data to their teams to analyze for more profit). Google’s data collection isn’t pretty, but expecting Apple to truly be creating their products without analytics and user data is simply ignoring the reality of the time.
    2. I’ll agree that Google can be fickle, but they’ve at least shown to be consistently working on Android. It’s also very easy to not use Google services on android. If you don’t like Keep, use any of the other 100 notes apps. I never really liked inbox, so that wasn’t a loss for me, but I can see why people would be frustrated. But it’s not really a critical app like Google Drive. If they shut down Google Drive tomorrow, that’d be a problem. but it’s still up, so whatever.
    3. Youtube music sucks but I don’t use it so it doesn’t bother me. You can use Apple Music, GPM, or Spotify if you want to listen to music.
    4. AI is the big push for everyone. All these assistants are doing is helping to train each company’s machine learning tech. IF they didn’t push this out to everyone, they’d be behind everyone else because they didn’t train their technology 5 years ago. Apple’s siri is the same and don’t expect this to change anytime soon.
    5. I’m not a dev, but whenever I’ve called into their customer support I always get a real person. I would imagine being a dev would be harder, but this doesn’t affect the average user.
    6. Now here’s a legit complaint! Apple has put way more time and thought into their UI and it’s starting to make the competition look terrible. As an avid android user, I find the Apple gestures to be absolutely incredible and above and beyond anything we’ll probably see. But, on the flip side, it isn’t really a deal-breaker for me. I wouldn’t want to have to jail-break just to use an emulator. So I’ll stick to my lesser UI.
    7. I’ll agree with the camera issues too. I’ve never had an issue or noticed any problems, but I know it’s an issue for some people.
    8. I live in the city, so android auto isn’t a thing for me.
    9. Bloatware is a legit complaint. Steve Jobs was smart in forcing carriers to sell the iPhone without bloatware and his prudence really paid off. That said, not having Blokada or other easy ways to block ads (outside of safari plug-ins) makes me not interesting in using iOS. I have an iPad and being bogged down with ads in every 3rd party app, or if I want to use chrome makes me want to just switch back to my phone. I usually disable any bloatware anyway. But I do agree, it would be nice if we didn’t have to deal with that in the first place.

  5. To be 100% honest I’m not super happy with the direction android has gone since about 2012 and I think the vast majority of the hardware is lame and lack luster as well but you bet your ass there is no way in he’ll I would even consider dropping what, 600 or more for any recent model iPhone which has even worse hardware and a terrible UI I can’t stand and no Fucking headphone jack. Really disappointed all around. Thinking about KaiOS or maybe a dumb phone and a phablet with data or something.

  6. You left out UI smoothness.

    To this day that is a serious issue with android. It’s more of a Samsung and LG issue but still.
    On my S9+ it feels like I’m dragging my finger through mud.

  7. You do know that Android has 80%+ of market share worldwide without counting China (no Google play).

    > Simple Backup and restore for Android:

    Already on Pixel devices and most phones with Android 8.1+, Google can’t backup every single OEM because everyone has different settings and features.

    If you go from Pixel to Pixel it has a complete backup except MMS.

    > Android still hasnt figured out Camera APls

    Wrong, Android has Camera2 API since Android 5, it gives manual modes to any app.

    Also a misconception, every single app (including Snapchat) has to use the camera API in order to open the viewfinder, what they do with it is another completely different thing.

    On Pixel 2 and 3 Instagram, Snapchat, Whatsapp use HDR+through Camera2.

    > your car case

    Doesn’t have anything to do with Android Auto and more with the incompetence of your car manufacturer.

    > In my country (in France at least) Android phones all have bloatware preinstalled which cant happen on an iPhone

    Nothing to do with Google and everything to do with the OEM or carrier.

    Just don’t buy carrier phones.

    > Also here Android phones cant have volte/voWiti they didnt buy the phone from the wanted carrier(for most of the phones) which again isnt the case for any iPhone

    Shitty carriers are shitty, nothing to do with Google or Android specifically, it’s a shitty policy.

  8. This Statement is in my opinion totally misplaced. Those issues you mentiod are very special and not from value in general. The whole post sounds to me like « I must find things to blame Android and show how good iOS is made by the holy developers of holy Apple kingdom »

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    >**Privacy** (in general): Obviously we can’t expect this because of the dominant position of Google in the ad world but I must say that a lot of people recognize the « benefits » that comes with having a lot of data, for example, with Google Assistant.

    Seriously, you’re complaining About privacy? Who says Apple isn’t selling your data? You can’t be sure to have 100% privacy either with Google, Apple, Facebook etc. You’re Surfing in the Internet, Posting Things, you’re never 100% incognito.

    >**The lack of long term commitment from Google services (and products):** This has become quite a meme in this sub but let’s position ourselves as someone with no expertise in Android. How can you expect someone to understand and keep up with the several messaging apps that Google buried during the last years? The same process applies to Inbox and all of this creates a fear to invest in the Google ecosystem.

    That’s Maybe a Google Problem, but not an Android Problem. Yes Android often Comes with preinstalled Google apps, like Gmail, Google Search, Hangouts and it’s Always Pretty clear and well explained (if it’s not self explaining) what These apps do. Your Argument has nothing to do with Android as a OS

    >beta products that are thrown out to users without any testing or minimum service expectation

    Of Course Apple has never done this, and all Releases never had any Bugs and were running smoothly. Bullshxt, Apple is not immune against Bugs and I heard from so many Bugs from several iPhone users, you can’t blame only Google for it. I personally never hat any **serious** Bugs on any Software I used (AOSP, Samsung Touchwiz, MIUI, Huawei’s EMUI 3 – 9, OnePlus’ Oxygen OS)

    >multiple same conflicting stock apps from Samsung and Google

    What Apps are conflicting? You can have SPlanner and Google Calendar on one device without any Problems. Of Course it’s confiusing having mutliple stores or other stock apps twice, one from samung and one from Google but that’s also not an Android Problem. It’s a manufacturer Problem.

    >**Simple Backup and restore for Android:** You guys know how it’s done for iOS, just copy it?

    Several devices and manufacture have a backup and restore program. Used it on my old Huawei devices sind the Mate 7 and now on my OnePlus 6T. Not a Problem only a lack of Research on your side.

    >Android still hasn’t figured out Camera APIs that’s why Instagram photos still looks bad

    Google DON’T want third Party apps to use the camera API, that’s the real reason. Also I don’t know only one Person who buyes a phone because the Quality on Instagram camera isn’t good. Take the fxcking photo with the stock device cam, go to Instagram and upload it. Simple as it is.

    >(Personal) Youtube Music is the best music service that got fucked up because it’s Google making it. […]

    Again not an Android but an specific app issue

    In your last text sections you’re complaining About YT Music and AndroidAuto. I don’t use YTMusic but Spotify can’t say much About that Service. Same with AndroidAuto. But These are again specific Apps that may have issues but this has Nothing to do with Android in General.

    All of your stated Points and issues in your post seem to me like a typical Apple fanboy tries to blame Android and hail Apple and iOS. It’s okay to have an own opinion, you have yours and I have mine. All I tried is to refute your Arguments.

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  9. lot of people = OP bubble

    personally I know almost nobody who would buy iPhone as their private phone, from those people I know who have iPhone, 80% of them got it as company phone and my circle are adult professionals, not some poor teenagers

  10. People buy iPhones because they’re cool, they’re part of the Apple ecosystem, they have great cameras, and blue bubbles. Privacy might be one of the next most important reasons, but that’s it.

    >Also here Android phones can’t have Volte/VoWifi if they didn’t buy the phone from the wanted carrier(for most of the phones) which again isn’t the case for any iPhone

    Completely false. I had an unlocked GS7 that had both of these.

  11. Never seen a post with Silver, but 0 votes lol.

    Privacy is completely understandable to want, but unreasonable to expect given today’s geopolitical climate. With every single major world power spying on each other, on their citizens and on citizens elsewhere, complete and total privacy is almost impossible to have, unless you want to go live completely off-grid in the Alaskan mountains or literally chill on some isolated land in Finland with no technology (and even then it’s not guaranteed).

    On the other hand, Apple is arguably headed into corporate shilling, they have a credit card now lmao. Eventually they will get their hands on literally anything they can take advantage of, the US is a corporate shell state.

    As for Google trying to « automate » everything, on one hand this is the exact reason why we need a universal basic income (UBI) system in the future. When automation takes 80-90% of all jobs we can’t exactly have several *billion* unemployed people getting absolutely nothing. Something similar to (but better thought out than) 2020 presidential candidate Andrew Yang’s $1000/month guaranteed UBI proposal would be a major necessity in the future. Now, it would still be a major help.

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