Quelles sont vos pensées sur la vie privée globale d’Android ?

What Are Your Thoughts On Android’s Overall Privacy?

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j’ai récemment, ont regardé l’événement Apple et s’il y a une chose, que je peux vraiment respecter est comment ils traitent la confidentialité des utilisateurs. J’ai vraiment aimé combien l’accent qu’ils mettent dans tous leurs services que les renseignements sont recueillis et stockés localement et vous appartient.

Je suis un air de défi pas complètement à jour dont la confidentialité avancé ni là dans l’écosystème android donc ma question à tout le monde est comment pensez-vous que sociétés comme Samsung, Google, Huawei il gèrent.

Edit : Merci pour toutes les réponses, certainement quelques grandes informations pour n’importe qui juste trébucher sur ce post, le consensus général est que le côté « la confidentialité des utilisateurs » des choses n’est pas formidable tout ça, mais ne devrait pas être nécessairement être désapprouvée. Collecte de données lorsque fait en bonne et due forme est une bonne chose pour le bénéfice de tous dans de telles situations comme Google, Microsoft et Apple. Cela étant dit je pense toujours que Mark Zuckerberg devrait aller *** lui-même  🙂

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29 réflexions au sujet de “Quelles sont vos pensées sur la vie privée globale d’Android ?”

  1. Android will always be weak on privacy, because Google has a conflict of interest. Its core business is advertising/gather user data, so privacy will always be second.

  2. Today I flashed Lineage on my S8 without any Google apps — I guess that shows what I think of Google and privacy! I’m not completely paranoid about data collecting software but it feels nice to use something that you know hasn’t got any ulterior motives.

  3. It’s not the platform itself I’m concerned with as much as the 3rd party monetization/tracking. And that’s a problem with both platforms. You can say you (Apple or Google) are private but when you have app stores that offer apps which host multiple tracking companies’ code you can’t really say you have the leg up on privacy unless you’re auditing your store’s apps as well. And each of these adtech/tracking companies make code for Android, iOS, and web sites. You’re getting your fair dose on any platform.

    The one merit Android has is it’s hackable and observable. There is no [NetGuard](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard) on the iPhone App Store, nor a [Dexplorer](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dexplorer), [Package Explorer](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.xgouchet.packageexplorer), [Sensor Disabler](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mrchandler.disableprox), [Lumen Privacy Monitor](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=edu.berkeley.icsi.haystack), [Net Monitor](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.secuso.privacyfriendlynetmonitorapp), [AntMonitor](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=edu.uci.calit2.anteatermo), or anything like that on the Apple App Store. And that’s excluding the tools *not* on Google’s own app store.

    Apple can say all they want but they don’t let you get a glimpse under the hood.

    The only reason the [Exodus Privacy](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.eu.exodus_privacy.exodusprivacy) Project and other researchers focus on Android is because there are no easy ways to do the same inspections with iPhone apps.

  4. Stock android is a privacy nightmare. Tons of google apps preinstalled. Google asking for your info and location during set up. I disable all of that and use alternatives. I made the mistake of buying a note 9 so I can’t flash my usual custom ROM and use settings that I would normally use to enhance privacy.

    Privacy isn’t binary. You should try to maintain as much privacy as you can. Simple things such as not using your real name or any personal info for user logins or passwords can go a decent way. If a product is free, then you are the product. Stop and think if you are willing to give away your private info for it. Some things are worth it imo (like google maps for example) but things like websearch isn’t worth it (I’ve been using ddg for over a year and it is honestly pretty good imo. Searx is good for anonymous google searches). Why use gmail? The web client is getting worse and worse. Something like Tutanota is good for privacy and it only costs $14 a YEAR. Is saving $14 a year worth google going through your emails? Why use Chrome when degoogled chromium or firefox exists? Not only is chrome a privacy nightmare but it also threatens the open internet. It is up to you if you want to give up convenience for privacy and a better digital future.

  5. There’s basically 0 privacy. Unless you install a custom ROM and use Android without Google services, which very few people do. I’ve done it and it is not so bad.

  6. Out of the box, Android is terrible for privacy. But by using a custom ROM based on AOSP without Google apps, it can be better than iOS for privacy.

  7. Samsung preinstalls Facebook on all their devices at this point which requires ADB to uninstall. I wouldn’t trust any phone with Facebook installed.

    Google is google but most of your data is anonymized so its not terrible.

    Don’t know about Huawei. Usually a different company has some sort of data being sent back to China every other month.

    Your best bet is finding an OEM you can « trust » and removing every 3rd party app via ADB. There really isn’t a company like Apple in the Android world with minimal data collecting and removing all identifying data.

  8. The ‘deal’ you make with Google is ‘your data for free stuff’…..

    I care more about my ability to access, modify and alter the OS than I do about being tracked for advertising purposes…. To get around little annoyances like Bluetooth tethers that don’t autoconnect, or AWFUL swipe-gesture nav that supposedly can’t be turned off (Here’s looking at you, Pixel 3XL)…

    I also like some of Google’s AI – the auto adding stuff from my Gmail to my calendar, and so on….

    So Android will always win over iOS….

  9. If privacy is a concern then don’t use products from a company that makes money selling you ads.

    Its a hard slog but linux, aosp phones, tor routers… Degoogling can be done

  10. Obviously on paper it does not look good for Google as they do track and use user data. BUT, Google seems to be using this data for good such as voice recognition software, AI, mapping, search functions, etc.

  11. I use and most people use windows as our desktop os, so i really don’t get why privacy or the lack of thereof is a problem with phones but not with our computers

  12. I’m willing to trade my data for google’s services like gmail, maps, calendar and contacts since google having this data has zero implications on my life, while the money I’m saving by not paying for those services is real.

  13. If you want privacy, then that means extricating the large tech companies from your life. No more Google, no more MS, etc. Lineage/microg is good enough for privacy. Linux is recommended on desktop.

    >Data collection when done in a proper manner is a good thing for the benefit of all in such situations

    I don’t trust the market to benefit me. Not do I trust the modern liberal democratic state.

  14. I have no problems handing over my data to Google, considering the services that I get in return. I generally don’t worry or care much about privacy.

    And before anyone trots out that « gotcha » argument about handing over my passwords to you; don’t. I’m the one who gives consent on a case by case basis.

  15. My main concern is third party tracking without my knowledge.

    The only reason I’m okay with Google is because the benefits.

    I live in a city where traffic is horrible. Google Map is able to tell me how severe traffic is and even an ETA. I can glance at my notification and see if the time is higher than normal or what not.

    It is creepy how it knows when I’m leaving and to and back from work though.

  16. I have no idea if any of the apps I Grant access to storage are just sending my photos and files to a 3rd party server if they wanted to do so secretly.

  17. Apple’s privacy remarks are mostly a gimmick because they don’t offer any *useful* web services. Apple doesn’t have free email, free storage, free photos, free search, or any free service. If you use any kind of web service you’re going to share your personal information. Google has arguably the best information services because they can *securely* collect your personal information and keep it safe. What difference does it really make if information is stored locally or in the cloud? Android is the only platform where you can truly audit your network usage. You have resources like firewalls, adblockers, and network assessment tools that let you view and control your traffic. Nothing like that exists on iOS because Apple is the gatekeeper. That is far worse for privacy because you can’t audit their privacy claims.

  18. I think my life would be far less convenient if my data wasn’t shared in the way it is, and I have no issues with it, and find all the hysteria over user privacy to be about as rational as general hysteria over GMOs and vaccinations.

  19. Apple software is proprietary software. Which means nobody will ever know for sure if they’re telling the truth. We can’t just accept whatever a company says without proof and without accessing the source code, there is no way to know.

    Also keep in mind that privacy isn’t what Apple desire. But it’s just a selling point. They don’t have the strong online services that they could use for collecting information. They don’t have a good maps app, email service, search engine, etc etc. They talk about privacy cuz they don’t even have the tools for collecting those data. So you’ll end up installing apps from Google or other companies. Which makes it not much better than an Android device.

    With Android, you can stop using Google’s services and install apps from other places (like F-Droid). Or even flash a custom rom. Things you cannot do with an Apple device.

    Out of the box, an Apple device might be better for privacy. But as soon as you start the setup process, it becomes worse than Android (since you don’t even need to use Google account to use an android phone).

  20. It is far better but you have to be sort of an Android enthusiast to really know what you’re doing.

    Google takes a lot of my data because I love using their services and experimenting with their new features — I get a lot of stuff really early, too.

    Apps like Yelp or OpenTable etc, though, I don’t let them stay open. I restrict them and their location permission unless I need it. It’s annoying, but Android Q is about to give me what I wanted on that front.

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