Les téléphones Android/Apple confidentialité

Android/Apple Privacy

Avant de comparer un smartphone pliable, il faut toujours regarder les différents appareils disponibles sur le marché. Lequel, permettra vraiment de mater les jokes chaque jours de manière gréable ?

J’ai vu plusieurs publicités télévisées récemment brancher l’angle de la « confidentialité » sur Apple/IOS ; de toute évidence une comparaison implicite avec les appareils android.
Je suis un utilisateur Android de longue date et ont toujours considéré qu’il y ait une différence négligeable privacy-wise avec Apple.
Je me trompe ?

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21 réflexions au sujet de “Les téléphones Android/Apple confidentialité”

  1. Just my opinion but I believe Apple and Google have different strategies to your private data. Google wants all of it – They create features and services as a means to entice user’s to provide them with their personal data and in turn it it also allows them to create better services and target you better in selling advertisements. I believe that a lot of what Google creates also has an underlying agenda to gain or retain access to user data but again, that of course is just my opinion. I don’t believe they sell your individual data so I guess it’s still private between you and google.

    I think Apple on the other hand wants as little of it as possible. If they can just collect data on the device to offer a feature, they will do just that. If there is no reason to collect it they won’t. You can read about apple’s privacy here: [https://www.apple.com/privacy/](https://www.apple.com/privacy/) and here [https://searchads.apple.com/privacy/](https://searchads.apple.com/privacy/) . The downside to their strategy is that many of their services just aren’t as good as Google’s.

    Beyond Android and iOS, Google also has a super popular email service which they collect and mine data from. They have a super popular web browser and web analytic platform that they collect from. Apple as far as I’m aware is not collecting a list of all your purchases based on email order confirmations nor are they collecting your web search or browsing history.

    When it comes to third party apps, I don’t really know. I think iOS may have a slight edge over Android through Android P at least but I think you gotta be wary of both.

    edit: One question I have in terms of iOS: My understanding is that Apple maps uses a bunch of third party platforms such as yelp and foursquare. I’d like a to know what kind of data, if any, that those platforms are getting from Apple on it’s users.


  2. Depends what you mean by « Privacy ».

    Both Google & Apple have internal models of who you are as a customer, anyone who tells you otherwise doesn’t understand technology. The difference is that Google’s model includes your searches which reveals a lot more about you and their primary business model – ads – leverage that data to better target you.

    However, neither companies release this data to anyone else, with the exception of Apple in China.

    To add to this, Google also has a much broader spectrum of data about you, which is the reason many of their products perform better. Apple would if they could, but alas, they don’t have services like YouTube, so they instead have a clever marketing approach to turn that negative into a positive.

  3. Apple is more privacy friendly because they make their money off of hardware and services.

    Google makes their money by data mining the shit out of you and feeding your data to ai algorithms to study behavior and predict what will you do in response to Ads, Ads, Ads! They even buy data from other companies to link to you so they can see if their ads are working. The more they know about you the more money they can make and influence your life and the people around you! It’s surveillance capitalism!

  4. Apple is better with privacy but you pay for it with their poor AI.

    Just look at how much better Google Assistant is.

    Google is starting to do a mix of both worlds with some recent pixel features being on device only.

  5. As a general rule of thumb, I wouldn’t trust anything that isn’t open source for privacy. Apple and Google both keep secrets and hold data, but both parties claim they don’t sell it either. I’m willing to trust that, but it’s still a risk. Apple is taking advantage of the the news about Facebook, Huawei and Chinese manufacturers to make people want to switch to iPhones. It’s clever because it targets something people care about, but don’t really know much about. Android can be much more private if you know what you’re doing with flashing, de-googling, etc.

    I personally don’t really mind if I give google some of my info so my life is easier. I enjoy maps, keep, etc. I use messenger because all my friends are on it and trying to get them to switch to anything else makes me look like some kind of curmudgeon.

  6. Apple is only pretending to care about privacy to increase iPhone sales. Their business model is not advertising so they don’t monetize user data. Yet they find themselves comfortable with comparing their business model with that of Google and facebook to mislead people. Why don’t they compare themselves with those companies like Intel or LG whose business model is also selling hardwares?

    There is no rootkit of Google in Android which sends user data to Google which most of the Apple fanboys think. Google collects data from the apps they offer. I use Gmail, YouTube, Google Maps and Gboard and so do iOS users. The amount of data Google collects from me is same as it collects from iOS users. How Apple is protecting them when they themselves use Gapps?

    Custom ROMs don’t come with Google apps so Android users have alternatives. You can also disable those pre-installed Google apps which you don’t use.

    – [Tor Project](https://www.torproject.org/about/history/)

    – [Mozilla](https://blog.mozilla.org/)

    – [Cloudfare encrypting SNI and DNS](https://www.cloudflare.com/ssl/encrypted-sni/)

    – [Signal](https://signal.org/blog/)

    – [EFF](https://www.eff.org/)

    – [DuckDuckGo](https://duckduckgo.com/)

    These organisations and projects are taking their stand with privacy by contributing to develop privacy enhancing technologies. What has Apple contributed so far to support privacy except for making false propaganda about privacy. They don’t even donate to them.

    Apple is offering privacy by promise and not privacy by design. But fanboys react like WOOooah.

    Downvote me by mentioning where Apple is contributing to privacy.

  7. I believe this is only marketing gimmick. Most Apple users could reading into the Huawei  » Android  » news, and not the rest of Androids news. So the marketing team is taking advantage of the situation. That’s my guess. Nothing is safe and private though especially if this commercialised internet is running the show.

  8. I have a different take on this issue. « Privacy from whom? » I really hate that the often repeated mantra is that iOS is « more secure » than Android. Let’s unpack that a bit.

    The very next statement made is some ***millions or billions*** of Android devices that are not patched and have known flaws.
    This is, for most people with a modern phone, just not relevant. It’s like saying « a Corvair is unsafe at any speed – therefore American cars are unsafe.  »

    I own a Pixel 3XL, not some off-brand blue-phone like thing running an unpatched version of Lollipop. I’ll match my patch list against an iPhone any day.

    Well then, how about the app stores? I don’t care. I don’t run unknown, questionable apps, and I don’t side load apps. I think there’s been more problems found in the Play store, over time compared to the App store, but I don’t care about years ago. I’ve never had a virus on my phone and I don’t know ***anyone*** who has. Selling the fear that Android is unsafe compared to iOS is utter ***bullshit***.

    Note; if ***you*** are personally targeted then it matters not whether it is brand X. You have no protection when using mobile tech. You are ***not*** safe by using an iPhone if you are targeted.

    Thus, because iOS is synonymous with iPhone you can talk about them interchangeably. However there is a world of difference between different Android phone vendors. I don’t own an ***android*** phone. I own a Google Pixel phone. They’re not all the same.

    And as Google doesn’t sell ***my*** data to others – only aggregated, de-personalized groupings of consumers, I appreciate the trade-off of giving them my data for their services. They get to know how often I go to Starbucks, and I get to know the state of traffic before I go out to cross town.

  9. Like some have already said, I think there needs to be a clearer definition of privacy. Are we talking about the company I’m doing business with knowing little to nothing about me or some third party?

    For me, transparency is the key to trust. Google earns more of my trust, being more transparent, than Apple does. There’s something about closed source software that makes me feel apprehensive. The walled garden and all that. Like someone would need to audit Apple’s software for me to have a greater sense of trust with them. That vale of secrecy and opaqueness just makes me more uncomfortable.

    For me, Google’s privacy policy is what I am looking for. A company that I do business with, knows me and my interest. That stays between me and Google and I am satisfied with their approach.

  10. by default, android is full of spyware. but the less locked down your device is, the more of it you can neutralize. iOS may have less spyware by default, but it’s incredibly locked down. you can’t replace it with a cleaned up fork, and jailbreak is hit or miss with some versions having to wait ages and only getting tethered jailbreak)

    i don’t know how much privacy tools jailbreak gives you, so i can’t say how it compares to rooted android

  11. I’d argue its not between how Apple or Google do business but more of how in iOS more shits like background microphone and or camera usage is restricted and obvious to users. Not saying that its foolproof, or that Google isn’t catching up, but to say that both platforms are equally good at this atm is simply wrong.

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