Google Exec enfin admet au Congrès qu’ils êtes suivi nous même w…

Google Exec enfin admet au Congrès qu’ils êtes suivi nous même w…

Google Exec Finally Admits to Congress That They’re Tracking Us Even with ‘Location’ Turned Off

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Google Exec admet enfin au Congrès qu’ils êtes suivi nous même avec « Location » éteinte


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28 réflexions au sujet de “Google Exec enfin admet au Congrès qu’ils êtes suivi nous même w…”

  1. Oy.

    With « Location History » turned off. (afaik, you can’t change this setting from your phone)

    « Location » is a different setting that appears on android, and you can turn it off. And when you do, your location isn’t tracked at all. Of course, then a bunch of things stop working, because they need your location to function.

  2. > »But Google collects geolocation data even if Location History is turned off, correct? » Hawley pressed.

    > »Yes, senator, it can in order to operate other services— »

    >Hawley interrupted: « Let’s just get that on the record. Google collects geolocation history and information even if Location History is turned off. » He asked DeVries if he thought the average teenager was aware that Google tracks his location by scanning area Wi-Fi networks.

    I don’t know about other Android phones but during intial setup of my Pixel 3 XL, it asked if I want Wi-Fi scanning on or off with a toggle present and gives a description of what Wi-Fi scanning does to improve location services.

    Also, here’s a description of what Location History does straight from Google.

    >When you turn on Location History, you may see a number of benefits across Google products and services, including personalized maps, recommendations based on places you’ve visited, help finding your phone, real-time traffic updates about your commute, and more useful ads.

    So why wouldn’t Google collect geolocation data when let’s say one uses Googles Maps even if Location History is turned off? Maps needs to collect geolocation data so it can tell the user how to get to the place they want to go from where they are currently located. As far as I can tell, the Location History feature has nothing to do with that.

  3. GPS contains location information.
    Wi-Fi contains location information.
    LTE contains location information.
    IP addresses contain location information.
    Phone numbers contain location information.

    Knowing your location, to varying degrees of accuracy, is kind of how all communication on Earth works. It’s data delivery. It needs to go somewhere.

    You can’t turn it off and have your phone work.
    You can’t turn it off and use the internet.

  4. I feel like there’s so much misinformation from this article as well as in this thread, which is why I’ll try to explain my understanding of location settings. I’m no Android expert either so feel free to let me know if I’m wrong.

    In Android Pie on the Pixel 3 XL, [the location menu has the following options](https://i.imgur.com/polYROO.png):

    * **Location**: This toggle is to purely turn on whether or not your phone uses location services or not or has permissions to locate itself.
    * **Google Emergency Location Services**: [Looks like a feature rolling out to countries](https://www.blog.google/products/android/expanding-emergency-location-service-android-us/) to help locate you when you make a call to emergency services. From what it sounds like, it appears to be a service that can override your location settings on your phone so that emergency services can quickly locate you.
    * **Google Location Accuracy:** Turning this on invokes Google Location Services, meaning all of Google’s cell tower data, WiFi network, Bluetooth devices databases to help locate you quickly. Turning this off relies on GPS only
    * **Google Location History:** Allows Google to save your location history from devices.
    * **Google Location Sharing:** This allows you to share your location with other users. This was formerly in Google+ and long time ago just a Maps feature.

    For Pixel users, [Google actually has a page for this as well](https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/9083770?hl=en).

    Based on what I’m reading from this article though, it’s a bit confusing because the senator mixes these Location terms up, but Google’s exec also doesn’t explain clearly to help clarify anything. For instance:

    > »But Google collects geolocation data even if Location History is turned off, correct? » Hawley pressed.
    >
    > »Yes, senator, it can in order to operate other services— »

    If location history is turned off, there’s no reason for Google to record or store my data right? A better response could have been « Your phone can still locate itself if Location services are turned on, but Google will not collect or store that location data if Location History is turned off. »

    ​

    **Edit:** In further reading the article I think I get what’s going on. Google does collect telemetry information about location services even if you turn off location history, so that’s why DeVries didn’t deny location collection. While I understand telemetry can be separated from actual recording of location history, it may be confusing to some and may seem shady why turning off location history doesn’t turn off all collection.

  5. This reminds me of the silly video about GPS still being active in airplane mode and this somehow being a scandal.

    In this case, it looks like users still can’t understand what each setting does despite the detailed explanations, so maybe they should change what these settings do and how many there are.

  6. My understanding is that google still gathered your location regardless for their own internal needs. Triangualting your location via various means. The only way was to remove, limit that would be to remove Google Play Services altogether. Anyone know better?

  7. I’d love for Google to simply disable all location services of any kind on every single phone held by a US senator and see how fast this bullshit ends.

    This is anti vaccination logic. They’ve been spoiled by the benefits of technology without any requisite understanding for so long that they’re willing to bite the hand that feeds out of ignorance.

  8. Whoever is in the business or any upcoming one will track you for sure. It’s about being aware about things and take a decision personally rather switched into another device or company.

  9. This is typical politicians asking stupid questions that sound damning but are just ignorant to make people feel like they’re sticking it tothe big guys.

    You can turn off location services, which are not the same as location history. They asked about whether location was tracked if location history is off. It is if you use location services with something like google maps. If you turn that off it shouldn’t be. That is the question they should have asked. A « yes » to that would be damning.

    The yes we have tells us your « if this then that » app’slocation based triggers still work if you turn off location history. Or that your running app knows where you’re running.

    I’m surprised this subreddit is so tech illiterate though(from all the comments)

  10. All cellphones track location data based on towers.

    Also this article is clickbait and OP should be ashamed of his title.

    Turning off Location History still tracks location. Turning off Location will stop tracking everything. Obviously two different settings, one asks to keep a record of location data and one asks to record location in real time.

    This is what happens when we have reporters and government officials who don’t know the difference between a potato and a cellphone.

  11. Ah yes, let’s hassle Google over a location toggle which is mostly harmless considering we’re tracked in literally so many other ways, while we let Ajit Pai and the FCC buttfuck the internet

  12. PJ fucking Media? Yeah they’re not a reliable source of reporting in any sense of the word other than that of a reliable ever more rightward tilt in the same way Rush Limbaugh is. Just like endlessly accusing mainstream media of anti conservative perspectives for the past century while building their own, explicitly biased media complex, movement conservatism has turned part of its focus to trying to play the refs of the internet like Twitter, Facebook and Google into giving them preferential treatment. This article is an example of them trying to misrepresent confusing information in order to bludgeon opinion of one of the tech companies. Not saying Google or other companies have problems with the way they are run, but this outlet is trash and shouldn’t be sourced for damn near anything.

  13. Since I’m sure many of you haven’t seen my prior comments I’ll repeat myself.

    If you don’t want to be tracked, don’t use computers (this includes all things that connect to the internet).

    We’re well into the age of computers collecting and sharing information about their users without the user’s consent. Whether or not it’s illegal is irrelevant. If you’re using a computer, you’re being tracked in some way. Having legal recourse to sue them doesn’t prevent them from tracking you (it’s too lucrative and too easy), and you’re still being tracked.

    Don’t be surprised to read from your computer that someone is tracking someone who’s using a computer. You’re being tracked.

    Period.

  14. That’s shameful my mobile has been stolen 3 times and they were never able to track it from the google device manager tool what good is their tracking

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